Jan 15, 2013 9:00am EST
, there was tremendous partisanship in this country. a tumultuous time. the level of bipartisanship. there's such hatred that you can't get in a room. it never seems like obama gets in the room. biden got in the room beforehand. but look, everybody hates each other down there. it's exactly the opposite of what you would expect from a respected nation. it makes us look mickey mouse. i don't blame fitch. look, we have to pay bills, the constitution says it, but everybody doesn't seem to care much about the constitution right now. >> i thought yesterday at the president's news conference, i thought the partisanship was at an all-time high in regards to the fiscal cliff debate. they, referring to republicans in congress, they can either acts responsibly and pay america's bills or act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. it feels a little bit worse, markets sort of shrugged that off. that was good news in all this. but it seems like the dividing line is real firm and real deep between republicans and democrats at this point. >> i wonder whether we know anything.